Joeri van Geelen: Interview III – RealAcad Mondays

This week on RealAcad Mondays, we have another guest contribution thanks to Youssef.Youssef is a RealAcader from the 2nd Stanford camp this year. Youssef has already run a speed-chess competition venture in Morocco and even had the honor of playing a game with famous Russian Grandmaster Anatoly Karpov.Youssef is greatly inspired by Joeri – Joeri is a 24 year old clean-tech entrepreneur in China. Joeri and Youssef first met in France at a regional event of the CEMS prestigious Master. Joeri has a varied range of experiences at Siemens Wind Power, the Dutch Ministry of Economic Affairs. He has completed his Master in International Management from the Rotterdam School of Management and from NHH (Norway) as parts as his CEMS degree.


1. What inspires/drives/motivates you?


Challenges motivate and drive me. I always look for new personal learning and growth opportunities, since they encourage me to go the extra mile.
My entrepreneurial mindset usually drags me into new and creative avenues that present uncertain and complex situations, yet inspiring and exciting at the same time

2. Looking back, was there a defying moment/experience in your life?

Here, I will refer to my first study abroad period in Nottingham, UK. For the first time I started living entirely independently of my peers at home and enriched my life by thinking across borders and cultural boundaries.

The experience shaped me to become the person I am today, and has opened my mind to anything undiscovered. Basically, I thrive in an international atmosphere since it presents a rich and diverse chemistry, bearing most potential for added value in many ways. The study abroad experience has thus given me the international edge that has had a long-term impact on all decisions I make, and has made me a more ‘all-round’ person.

3. What advice would you give to future young leaders?
Recently, I found exactly the industry and type of people I would like to surround myself with. I would advise young leaders to follow their heart before listening to their brain’s impulse.
I believe that everyone becomes most successful, according to his or her own definition, when doing what one loves and is passionate about. Why? Because it eventually makes one a more happy person, which positively enhances one’s energy level, which in turn boosts personal and societal success.

The aim going forward would be to have a nice mix of youth and experience. And it was nice to have that youthful, thought provoking and idealistic view from Joeri..

And, on personal reflection, there is definitely big room for improvement in the preparation of this feature from my side – as is evident with the lack of photo and bio. I’m still getting used to this on my schedule and need to be better prepared. I hope to do better in the coming weeks..

I’d love to hear from you guys if you have any other questions you feel we should be asking.

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On Cookies, Radishes and Self Control

This week’s book learning draws inspiration from ‘Switch’ by Dan and Chip Heath.

A group of hungry student volunteers were led to a room that smelt of chocolate chip cookies.
There were 2 bowls – one with cookies and the other with radishes.

Half the group were asked to eat from the cookie bowl and not touch the radishes. The other half had to do the opposite. Researchers left the room for 10 minutes to bring about temptation and studied the situation with hidden cameras. They found that, despite looking longingly at the cookies bowl, the radish eaters stuck to their word – that was will power at work!

A couple of hours later, they were called for a second ‘unrelated’ study about problem solving and given complicated unsolvable puzzles. And the results were telling.

The cookie group i.e. the untempted students spent, on average, 19 mins on the task making 34 attempts. The Radish group, on the other hand, gave up in 8 mins, after 19 attempts on average.

Self control, as this experiment dictates, is exhaustible . Exercising it is like doing bench presses at the gym – the first one is easy and then it gets progressively difficult.

This story is a wonderful example of how fighting the elephant is a very tiring process for the rider. I think the big question here is – Are we wise in our use of our exhaustible self control every day?

Happy week, all!

The 24 Hour Challenge

It’s funny how Robin Sharma’s email inspire me to some action. It is thanks to one of his notes that I felt inspired enough to wake up early in the morning, and thus discovered the ‘Hour of Power’.

Another one of Robin Sharma’s pointers that stuck was to switch off for 24 hours during a week – pick a day in the weekend and switch off from any work and any email. Now, that one was a toughie. My weekend is typically peppered with dozens of things to do. But, this happened inadvertently this weekend and I can see how liberating it is. I can also see myself switching off on Saturdays from here on in. It needs quite some resolve but will be very positive if I can manage to keep it up. 
A couple of nice things happened this weekend. I finished the Star Wars series this weekend. 5 movies in what was an unusual weekend. I overachieved on my 24 hour away from email and work challenge (haha). In the process, I also found a lot of resolve to finish my book. 
I realized last week that it would take a bit of thinking to solve my ‘writer’s block’. Except this was a block of a different kind. I wasn’t even getting close to the book. Thanks to a long time away from writing, I needed to catch up on the story and there was no way I was going to read it on my computer (e-books don’t work for me). So, I had to get it on my phone so I could read it while traveling. Thanks to Dropbox’s brilliant app, I am now 1 step away from it. All I need now to get a PDF version onto a shared folder. 
I feel liberated at the thought of the idea. I understand now that it’s not the climb up the mountain that wears us out. It’s the pebble in our shoe. And I wasn’t underestimating this one. 
I also realize that I effectively have around 5 weekends to finish my book so as to meet my dream of finishing this year. (I am counting out December for all practical purposes thanks to holidays and expected travel)
Miles to go. But, thanks to a wake up call from Yoda, I realize I must believe..
2 hours to get through a small, but important part of my (very) ambitious weekend list of things to do. And then, the new week shall begin. 
May the Force be with us.. :)

On a different note, Mark Suster has a great post on Lead, Follow or Get the Fuck out of the Way – a post that is worthy of the title. (I’m making no apologies for the language.. :))

Yoda

I am a reluctant movie watcher. In most cases, it takes about 10 recommendations before I watch a movie and especially if it’s part of a trilogy. There are two reasons for this. The first is I’m not much of a movie guy. And the second is, once I’m hooked, it’s very hard for me to get un-hooked.

Watching the ‘Star Wars’ trilogy has been on my list forever now. There was a whole Star Wars discussion on AVC that caught my interest. That and a close friend of mine who is a massive Star Wars fan. In fact, on his insistence, I had begun with Star Wars I and gotten bored. Of course, he later explained that I should start with 4th episode – A new hope.

I did last weekend and as of now, I’ve finished with the trilogy. And as expected, I am a fan. I can’t wait to watch the prequels now!

And fittingly, I thought I’d blog about my favorite character – Yoda. It is hard to come away from the movies without loving Yoda – his incredibly sweet and profound character and lest we forget, his unique style of speech.

There were a couple of Yoda moments that had me clapping. (No, seriously..)

The first moment is when Yoda catches Luke looking at him differently as he is now old and weak.

He quips – When 900 years you reach, look as good you will not


A few other quips were just as inspirational.

Do or do not. There is no try.


Size matters not.. look at me, judge by size, do you?


Luke: What’s in there?
Yoda: “Only what you take with you”

“Named must your fear be before banish it you can.”

“Ohhh. Great warrior.Wars not make one great.”

“Soon will I rest, yes, forever sleep. Earned it I have. Twilight is upon me, soon night must fall.”

The great Yoda moment (for me..) was when Luke gives up trying to get his ship out of the water as a part of his Jedi training. Dejected and frustrated, he moves to the side.

Yoda does it for him.

On seeing his ship out of the water, he goes to Yoda and says “I cannot believe it.”

“Yes. That is why you fail.”

Life lesson right there. What are we without belief..

An Incredible Time To Be Alive

If you take the picture the media paints to heart, you are likely to feel very depressed. Eurozone is in trouble, there are protests all around the world, global warming is likely to get worse – the world is in crisis. Everything is getting worse.

I thought I’d flip it around.

This is truly an incredible time to be alive, isn’t it?

The world is flat, connected and extremely personal.

It is flat because distance doesn’t matter anymore. We live in a large global village.

It is connected because we are all connected to each other in more ways than ever before. I realized this when I looked at the little community building around this blog – The Google Analytics data says this blog has had visits from 103 countries. 103 countries! Isn’t that simply mindblowing?

It is personal because, thanks to tools like Twitter, you know what your favorite pop star is up to. You know them as people, what they believe, what their lives are like and you can have conversations with them from time to time. They’re no longer people you just see on TV.
It is personal because you have your entire class from high school on your facebook and even if it has been ages since you last met, you’re still connected.

This is an incredible period because the world is in transition of sorts. Social media has changed the way the world works – fundamentally. It has empowered millions of us in and impacted us in very profound ways. Suddenly, we all have ‘voice’. Corporations are trying to get their heads around it, politicians don’t know what to do about it, countries try to block it – but you sure as hell can’t ignore it.

Sure, we may be in a tough time. But now, more than ever, we have the power to make the most of failure. We have opportunities to learn all around us, to get inspired, to do more and really make a difference. We’re not in the 1980s. Sure, we’ll have difficult times but now, more than ever, we have the power to make life work without employing ‘traditional’ methods. Times have changed.

And what a wonderful change it is. JLM put it nicely –

One of the great things about life just now is the realization how far our voices can be heard.

Seeing your rich background and knowing we can hear each others’ voices through the ether is really inspiring.

Not to go all Freud on you, but it gives me great hope for the world when you and I can communicate from far away and yet it seems like we are just sharing a coffee.

Is this a great time to be alive or what?’


It is a great time. Not just great. Simply incredible. Now for some coffee..

Murphy From The Other Side

The popularized version of Murphy’s law (different from the real thing) dictates that when we look for a taxi on our side of the road, there are likely going to be tons of available taxis on the other side. And if we decided to walk over, voila! there would be a few available on our side.

We tend to see this happen a lot when we call for taxis as well. We might wait for ages and then decide to call for one (= additional cost). And just as our ‘on call’ taxi comes to pick us up, a stream of available taxis will probably just pass by.

I’m using taxi’s here as the example. But, I’m sure it’s happened to you in one way or another – either with public transport or with movie tickets or with something else.

Like it or not, it just seems to happen.

The other day, I was in conversation with a taxi driver in Singapore who was talking about his general habits during a day of work. One of his rules was to go back home if he didn’t find customers for 2 straight hours post midnight. And this meanttaking the car to the car wash and then heading home as washing the car was part of his end-of-day routine.

And that’s when he spoke about how he always seemed to pass by 10 customers who wanted his services right after he washed his car!

I couldn’t help but smile. The grass is always greener..

Doing Our Bit

This incident took place 2 years ago or so in university. I had wanted a few pages printed and I’d gone to a friend’s room as I didn’t have a printer. I was pressed for time and I remember wanting my documents in separate pages. And she insisted on printing stuff double sided.

Now, given she had a conventional laser jet, this meant printing a page and then turning it upside down just in time so it prints right. And so, it took longer than it should have and I remember getting annoyed. And then, something went wrong. I can’t remember what but I think the paper got jammed.

At that point, I voiced my frustration about her slow process to which she pointed out that she was doing her bit to save the environment. And I remember smugly pointing out that the real wasting is in the industries and this is not helping.

While my irritation and smug-ness probably got the better of me, it doesn’t take away from the fact that I was very wrong. It does matter that we do our bit.

I thought about that incident the other day as I was taking my little ‘environment friendly’ shopping bag to the Waitrose next door for my weekend shopping. I paid 50p a few months back for this bag and I take it along every week and thus don’t use any plastic bags. And over time, I’ve always tried to minimize paper wasting by using the back side of printed pages for scribbles and notes. I have a stack of these sheets under my desk.

I still don’t think these little steps are going to change much in the grand scheme of things right this moment. The biggest users of paper and other such resources are still the massive corporations that I/we don’t control. But, therein lies the key. There will come a day when I/we will have influence on these ‘macro’ factors. Either that, or we will be the parents of those who will. And, if we have been schooled well in sustainability and responsible use, it will show. We are creatures of habit after all.

Doing our bit – I’ve realized it matters in more ways than we can imagine. We often have very deep learnings from times when we were wrong and made errors in what we said or did.

Why, then, are we taught to fear and abhor such moments?

We live. And we learn.

Hidden Choices

I was at the Sports Store the other day to buy shoes.

I was there to replace my football studs. And, additionally, I was out to enquire how much Tennis shoes and Running shoes would cost. I was running with my tennis shoes much to the gym instructor’s annoyance. In short, now, I needed 3 new shoes and that meant an emptier wallet.

As always, I had a conversation inside my head between the stingy guy and the more pragmatic one. The stingy guy made a case for just 1 shoe and reminded me that nothing bad had happened for many years. Why worry now? He ignored the fact that I hadn’t been doing any treadmill running prior to this.

The pragmatic guy took a different approach. He beamed in an image of a friend twisting her ankle on the football field thanks to wrong shoes. And he also reminded me of a shopping experience I had had ages ago.

I had gone shopping with a wiser friend before a grass game we had signed up for. He was buying football studs and chose one for himself. He asked me if I had one and I shrugged. I told him that I was happy with my hard court shoes and I’d play with them. In truth, I wasn’t happy at all. I had slipped a fair bit in the previous game but I was a university student then and didn’t have money for 2 sets of football shoes. And he immediately bought me a pair and shared a quote that I had shared on this blog in January 2010 – When you are young, your feet are right but your shoes are wrong. When you get old, your shoes are right but your feet are wrong.

Brilliant. The pragmatic guy won it because he pulled a great chord – I was reminded of something I had preached here. And now, thanks to this blog, I now have as many shoes as many of close (girl) friends.

That aside, I also realized that we are always faced with hidden choices. When we say yes to something, we almost always are saying no to something else. And as we grow, we become more aware of these choices. The flip side is we take less risks and become more cautious with age. While we might have jumped onto a football game with the wrong gear when we were 16, we are likely not to do that when we are 32 and have more at stake. With growth comes responsibility.

I don’t know what to make of this thought yet except that we have to take as many risks as we can while we are young and irresponsible. So, I’ll leave it at that for now – as an observation. Look forward to your thoughts in the comments. :)

Practically Applying Elephants and Riders

Yesterday, I finally put together a post on Elephants and Riders. It’s been a long time coming. But I chose to wait till I finished ‘Switch’ just in case I learnt something new about the concept. In hindsight, that was a good move as I feel I understand how to use it a little better.

And thanks to a friend’s email wondering how to put this into practice, I thought I’d go ahead and share what I’ve started with.

The problem I started with was waking up at 06:30 for the hour of power. This truly is the toughest battle of them all. This is the kind of habit that gives my rider tremendous happiness. It means fitness, completing my book reading quota for the day and generally improving my overall well being. And of course, this is exactly the kind of goal that my elephant HATES.

Ever since I read this little framework, I did the following –

1. Renamed the hour to ‘Hour of Power’ simply because it sounds cooler. My elephant is more receptive to that, especially when the alternative is 45 mins of exercise instead of snuggling under the blanket in the sleep inducing cold weather.

2. Took out all excuses – the chief one being sleep. I realize my elephant likes to believe it’s all logical. On nights I don’t get enough sleep, it will generally do a great job convincing me that sleep is more important. So, now, the focus is to get 8  hours of sleep so I can take out that bargaining chip early in the morning. (And I always have to! Always.)

3. Caused some pain. The first thing I do when I become conscious is to switch off the fan. That helps. I’ll have to find an alternative when the weather becomes colder though.

4. Found an excuse to start thinking. I used to call up a friend in the morning to wake him up and thus have a 5 min conversation to wake myself up. Then, I switched to checking email (a practice I hate). Over time, I’ve grown out of that. I’ve realized that all I need to do is get my hands on water to drink.

5. Drink a glass of water. I keep a jug next to my bed. I realize the moment my dehydrated body gets some water, I wake up.

This whole process coupled with 2 min snooze alarms typically takes about 10 minutes but has hardly ever failed to work. The big barrier is 8 hour sleep which I try and ensure.I find it pointless to fight my elephant if I don’t get my sleep quota. Self control is an exhaustible resource after all. (More on that coming soon..)

That’s my process. I’m sure you have yours and I’d love to hear about it in the comments.

On a completely different note, if you had told me a few years ago that I’d spend so much thought into just waking up at a certain time and doing some exercise, I might have laughed (cue: my teenage self). I’m learning to appreciate more and more that consistency on these little things takes so much more grit, discipline, strength of will and character than I can ever imagine.

My respect for those who attended every class in university has only gone up. :)

A Touch of Understanding

One of the highlights this weekend aside from watching the 1st Star Wars movie (awesome graphics for the 1980s!) has to be getting started on ‘Gifts Differing‘ by Isabel Briggs Myers, the woman behind the famous Myers Briggs Type Indicator.

I have been wanting to dig a little deeper on my understanding of ‘Introversion’ and ‘Extraversion’ for a while now. And on Friday, I began taking a couple of tests online and wasn’t satisfied by the results. I needed to understand more so I made sure I had a copy of the book in my hands before the book stores closed on Friday evening. Given it is a hard copy book, I expect to make slower progress than usual. But, this is also one of those books where having a physical copy helps greatly (vs an audio version).

The MBTI personality type is composed of a combination of – E vs I (Extraversion vs Introversion), S vs N (Sensing vs Intuition), T vs F (Thinking vs Feeling) and J vs P (Judging vs Perceiving). And we typically are closer to one or the other – a sample MBTI type would be ISTJ or ENTP. In essence, the Myers Briggs Type Indicator is based on the assumption that we all have certain dominant characteristics. Like all other psychometric instruments, I don’t think the MBTI is anywhere close to perfect. However, it is likely to give us a framework in which to view the world (and ourselves, as I have realized) – and this is often most helpful.

Eager as I was to get a sneak preview of the pages ahead, I went to one of the tables that described the difference between 2 characteristics – P vs J i.e. Perceptive vs Judging.

Judging:  Are inclined to regard the perceptive types as aimless drifters.
Perceptive: Are inclined to view the judging types as half alive.

Judging: Aim to be right.
Perceptive: Aim to miss nothing.

Judging: Are self-regimented, purposeful and exacting.
Perceptive: Are flexible, adaptable and tolerant.

I couldn’t help burst out laughing when I read this because I was thinking of the number of times I thought of someone as an aimless drifter and the number of times I’ve gotten annoyed at others thinking of me as half alive thanks to my own routines/organization systems. I have worked hard over time to be more tolerant of other points of views because that doesn’t come easy to me either. I tend to be viewed more as arrogant than accepting and I’ve worked hard (still work in progress) to smooth that edge. And don’t even get me started on how hard I’ve had to work to not try to be right in every argument.

I couldn’t help but laugh because I finally felt understood – by myself.

A touch of understanding. It goes a long way. Exciting times ahead.

I also had a major ‘I am such a geek’ realization on Friday. Getting so excited over a book on personality types? My teenage self must be laughing..